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From the Mailbag

We start with this email from Self-Righteous Inc.:

I sent you an e-mail and you did not reply. Why not? When a fellow brother or child of God calls you for your sin then you have a moral obligation to respond and defend yourself or admit that you are in error. You did not respond to me. Why not? You still need to repent! I recommend that you apologize to Steve for your attitude towards him. You still need to repent of your sins towards others. Have you repented? Do not ignore me this time.

I am still waiting for you to tell me that you have prayed for forgiveness. I am still waiting to hear that you have repented of your sins. Would you like me to give you a daily encouragement? I will happily do that if you need a daily reminder to repent of your sins.

Ready for a long one? Rants, Inc. sent us this -- well, this, and three more like it:

SO PRAY FOR TED & THE BEAUTIFUL GAYLE, AND PRAY GREATLY ALSO FOR THE FASTING BEAUTY CALLED JEANNE!"" lets list some facts below......ONE... "" deaths weak secret attack, and its fuel"

1. the phages in the brain, are of the same original sin, of GODS CAPTURE AND THROWING HERE, in the beginning on earth, of GODS DISECTION , and removal of death and old age, by HIS HOSTS/us/sons of ADAM!"" But each one OF THE PHAGES/VIRUSE'S has a different method, and make up, for attack!"" Hidden viruse's/ infectious disease called rigamortus!"" When you wake too rigamortus, you then are fighting the battle, it wants when you are either over whelmed by sickness or old age!"" At death/sleeping as Messiah called it for one of His keys!"" The filth then try's too surprise all at that moment and take you over too devour one!" AS MESSIAH SAID, CALL OUT TOO ME, LET ME BE YOUR SAVOUR!"" I WILL PROTECT YOU FROM THE devourer / LYSIS!"" Bacterial phages/filth, which at death, begin eating the flesh and muscle they have hid in, sence the beginning at your birth!"" when one finally falls too old age and death, it is merely them/us going into deep sleep, due too the secret toxin attack of the air and bacterial filth in their bodie's, and it begins speaking as though it has meaning, too freighten!"" BUT IF A CHRISTONE, MESSIAHS ESSENSE WITHIN THE BODY, AND THE AIR AROUND US HIS MIGHTY LIGHT, WITH EVE, AND ADAM, AND GOD THE FATHER SAY!~"" THIS ONE IS OUR'S!"" AND THEY TAKE YOUR SOUL, AND LEAVE THE FILTH TOO EAT each other!"" BUT WHAT MESSIAH TOLD US IS MORE THAN TRUE, HE CAME TOO GIVE US BACK LIFE ABUNDANT/LONG LIFE AS IN THE DAYS OF OUR FATHER ADAM CHRIST/EVE CHRIST!"" WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, THE INFORMATION/DATA TOO TAKE FULL CONTROL OVER DEATH!"" AND MESSIAH ALONG WITH OUR FATHER ADAM, AND EVE, AND MANY MILLION'S OF OUR BROTHER AND SISTER'S ARE COMING TOO SPIT THE SKY, AND LEAVE A REMNANT WHICH I NOW GATHER!"" YOU MUST OVER COME, and believe and know the righteous way GOD NEEDS/EXPECTS OF US TOO REIGN WITH HIM ON EARTH/SERVE HIM!"" WE MUST BE HOLY PRIESTS UNTO OUR GOD!""{{ BUT THAT DOES NOT JUST MEAN THE WORD OF THE BIBLE, THAT MEANS THE NEW MEAT/MANNA/HIDDEN MYSTERY OF GOD/WHAT WE MUST DO AFTER THE SEVERING/eating literally by Gods army, OF THE evilone's/wicked FROM EARTH!" WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY? AT THIS TIME/due season, WE MUST PREPARE FOR HOLINESS AND BEING PRIESTS SO AS WE CAN SERVE/BE WITH GOD IN PARADISE/HERE ON EARTH!" REVELATIONS 21:3 - AND THERE WAS A GREAT VOICE OUT OF HEAVEN SAYING, "BEHOLD!"" THE TABERNACLE OF GOD, IS WITH {{ WHO? MAN/WO-MAN }} MEN, AND HE WILL DWELL WITH THEM, AND THEY WILL BE HIS PEOPLE, AND GOD HIMSELF, SHALL BE WITH THEM, AND BE THEIR "GOD!"" so as stated i am he of Matt: 24:45-46, and of Rev: 10: 7, and he of rev: 2: 17, my new name is Elijah paul Moses!" i am he who over came satan in spiritual battle WITH THE MESSIAH/FAMILY OF LIGHT/LIFE BEFORE me!"" AND i am he who marks for GOD ALL REMNANT REV: 7: 2-4!""

2. AS STATED THE PHAGES / lucifers hosts hiding in all have a different need of vitamins and minerals, and a different method of attack!"" the phage in the brain that once inhabited the host called E.COLI, wants milk, and cheese/lactate!"" the bifidobacteria, is always living off our bodie's the bacterial phage that once inhabited the host science calls bifidobacteria!" and so on!"" the bacteria that like citric acid/fruits, the phage hidden in the body the same!"" the phages hidden in the muscle and such, can come and go as they do with the astronauts in heaven, when astronauts go into space, they cannot figure out why? they loose certain vitamin's and minerals and bacteria, and unbeknownst too them phages/ evil spirits/ bacterial viruse's leave their body, and literally load up and stay silent on astronauts, hoping one of them will survive, thats how badly they want out of here/OFF EARTH, because they Know GOD NOW COME'S!" Phages/evil spirits, demons called by MESSIAH!"" AS IN THE BIBLE, HE SO POWERFUL he would command them from the bodie's of men and women, and then HE WOULD SAY!"" AFTER THEY LEAVE, THEY RETURN later, with many more, phages/demons, and attack more greatly, BUT THE HOLY SPIRIT WITHIN THEM, AND THEMSELVE'S are more the wiser in defense of them those he removed bacterial communities from!""

3. the Science GODS WORD CREATION, has been very wrong in many way's, and has been lead by bacteria, too convince them that bacteria is friendly too our body/host, they are the enemy spoken of BY OUR GREAT PHYSICIAN/LORD GOD MESSIAH, WHO SAID ALWAYS STAND AGAINST satan/principality of the air!"" I NOW, not truly years back, but now i stay on a body cleaning mission, letting the harlott know, if you are going too secretly, grow more bacterial, for lack of a better term, beastly babie's with in me, you MUST PAY WITH YOUR stolen life/death!"" in the past i have cleaned my gal bladder, which house's many vibrio phages and harveyi, {{ many bacteria literally fight their way through the body and go directly too the gal bladder for free food and wait for death, so as too take part in what is left/lysis }}!" i have been cleaning with natural cleaser's, my gut/intestine's. and now using ANTI-BIOTICS, TOO ATTACK THEM!"" AND CLEANING MY HOUSE!" those under heavy attack, you will find the bacteria controlling them, into unclean living, so they in the house which help them keep us blind, can eat more freely, and grow more babie's in a dirty home!"" weird but true!"" SCIENCE HAS PROVEN BY GODS WORD, that the earth has a community of bacteria which try and control all creature's of the air/insect and many animals, but did not TRULY BELIEVE MESSIAH WHEN HE TAUGHT US "THAT", " 2000 YEARS AGO!"" HE IS AMAZING!"" THEY ATTACKED HIM, AND LIVED IN HIM GREATLY, ONLY HE WAS ABLE TOO SUSTAIN SUCH AN ATTACK, AND EVERY TIME HE SPEAK BE SPEAKING COMPLETE AND TOTAL TRUTH!"" HE PROCLAIMED IT, FATHER THIS FILTH HAS NO CONTROL OVER ME!" {{ and bible tell's of how just before His death, the bacteria was escaping His body, knowing if there after His death, he would consume them, HE IS THE MIGHTYONE }} HE IS THE MIGHTYONE, THE UNIQUEONE, THE DESTROYER OF evil!"" The desire of all WOMEN!"" HE THAT RIPS THE RESPECT FROM ALL MEN, EVEN HIS enemy!"" HE, EVEN THE DESTROYER OF SOME PROPHECY/which satan had tried too effect HIS COMING WITH!"" SATAN ATTACKING HIS PROPHETS ALWAYS!"" AND SOME , EVEN THE GREATS let satan speak from their souls!"" IT IS HORRIBLE but true!"" what could i be speaking OF?"" ISAIAH 53: 2- COULD THERE HAVE BEEN ANY MORE GREATLY misspoken verse of our MESSIAH!"" BUT ISAIAH AT THAT MOMENT YOU ARE SEEING A BATTLE WITHIN HIS BODY, AND THE AIR AROUND HIM, THE evil, hide's from its burning by fighting and finally moving but one WORD, AND IT merely put off its burning A FEW YEARS, BUT HAS MADE IT MORE SEAVER!" NOT ONE WOMEN WHO SEEN HIM, DID NOT WANT HIS ATTENTION!!"" Not one man who seen him, did not ENVEY HIS STRENGHT AND CHARACTOR!"" WHAT DID HE OUR MESSIAH SAY? WHEN THEY ASKED HIM WHY? HE MUST BE CRUXIFIED!" HE SAID WITH STRENGHT!"" BECAUSE THE PROPHETS WROTE IT SO!"" HIS/our FATHER HAD TOO SAY?" SON I MUST ASK YOU TO GO TOO EARTH, AND DIE FOR ME!"" BECAUSE THE PROPHETS I LOVE/YOUR PROPHETS, HAVE WRITTEN THAT YOU WILL BE DISPISED AND HATED, AND NOT ONE SEE THAT THERE IS GREAT BEAUTY IN YOU!" AND IN SPIRIT BEFORE HIS BIRTH, HE THE MIGHTYONE SAID, HERE AM I FATHER!"" NOW THATS A GOD!"" HE CAME AND LEAD MILLIONS, WHO KNEW HE WAS BEAUTIFUL, AND STRONG, TOO THE NOW, THIS DAY, OF BILLIONS OF EARTH, EVEN HIS ENEMY FOLLOW HIS WORDS!"" HE IS AND WILL ALWAYS BE THE MIGHTYONE!"" IF THAT VERSE WOULD HAVE BEEN TRUE, HE WOULD HAVE HAD NOT ONE APOSTLE, NOT ONE, DICIPLE, AND NOT ONE WOMAN FAINTING FROM HIS MERE PRESENCE!"" THEY FOLLOWED HIM IN MULTITUDE'S UNTIL HIS EXPLOSION, INTO LIFE/LIGHT!"" HE SWALLOWED UP DEATH IN VICTORY ISAIAH 25: 8!"" AND THAT VERSE IS MORE THAN TRUE!"" HE WENT INTO SLEEP AND ATE/CONSUMED THE BACTERIA/PHAGES IN HIS BODY, AND ROSE UP, AND WALKED FOR FORTY DAYS AMONG MEN!"" THEN GOING STRAIGHT TOO HEAVEN, TOO BE OUR PLACE / MAKE A PLACE FOR US!"" HE IS AMZING!"" SO THAT IS WHAT HE TAUGHT US ABOUT SCIENCE THAT satan fights, and works all the day, too merely change one word, in data of science too hide in terror one more day!"" SO BACTERIA, IS OUR ENEMY, not our friend as satan has secreted/lied us into believing!"" The scientists that first wrote that lost their BATTLE TOO HEAR MESSIAH AND ADAM AND EVE, AND THE GREAT I AM, SAYING THAT IS YOUR ENEMY!"" THANK GOD FOR THE MANY WHO ARE NOW AWAKING, AND THE HUNDREDS I NOW AWAKE!""

4. if under a direct attack like ISAAC NEWTON WHO EXCELED UNDER PRESSURE, these are some of the things you should do!"" 1. donot eat the same foods too often except BEEF/LAMB!"" ANY FRUITS OR VEGETABLE'S, they the phages/bacteria in gut and blood veins and muscle, can make toxins/bacteriocin's!" {{ and high potency vitamin's, if under attack they take the vitamins, that you feel are for your health, and begin making toxins from them!"" IF TOO MANY VITAMIN'S, they take your life!" If so take a multiple vitamin with just the basic amount of vitamins and mineral's, But if you notice anger or something of change in your mood, or any craving's for sin/unnatural acts the vitamin is a immediate suspect, as science has proven they take vitamins in our gut , and make proteins/toxins }} ITS NOTHING too fear!"" God is with you, especially if now are helping Him, as He has helped us live / Grow our entire live's, and HELP Him now prepare His / our enemie's end!"" The enemy which killed all our ANCESTORS/FAMILY, RECENT, AND LONG AGO!"" If any of your people died before a 100, they were taking an attack too most likely STOP YOU!"" THINKING KILL THEIR PEOPLE, AND YOU STOP THEIR SOUL FROM BEING RELIGIOUS OR A SCIENTIST/of destiny, IT IS TRULY THAT DEFINED THIS battle between death, AND LIFE!" AND HAS STOPPED many by doing so, BUT NOT YOU, AnD me!"" If sickly, or very old, banana's, are great for your heart one way!" But if lucifer is at your house, it can make weird heart stopping toxins from the banana sugars!"" So when eating banana's do so every three or four day's, not every day!"" IF STRONG AND HEALTHY AND YOUNG, WHAT DOE'S IT DO WITH THAT SAME SUGAR, poison/toxin your mind/brain and suggest sins/homosexuality and whorism!"" TABLE SUGAR AND CHOCOLATE THE SAME, IF CRAVING THEM BADLY, they are blinding you with them, you should never eat sweets or chocolate if so, do so sparingly!"" ANYTHING FROM THE VINE!" GRAPES, TOMATOE'S, WATERMELON!"" and orange's, they can cause big problems with these fruit, BUT UNBELIEVABLY WHICH IS WHY? long ago satan started through men and wo-men that apples where the sinful fruit!"" GRANNY SMITH, ANY APPLE, is very good for heart and they cannot do to much with them!"" fish, any without scales as bible foretold, are not to be eaten!"" YOUR BEEF MUST BE WELL DONE!"" NOT RARE!"" AS LONG AS THEIR IS NO BLOOD, and is why? satan had its hosts in france, start the trend of very rare even raw meats!"" very bad, give's them microbes and matter too blind you!" AND WITH ALL MENTIONED it can cause asthma's and loose of oxygen and killing in the night!"" PANIC ATTACKS ARE CAUSED BY THESE little animals!"" TRYING TOO TAKE LIFE ALL DAY LONG!" IF YOUNG AND STRONG if you must have grape's or other mentioned , very sparingly!"" If older and weaker beware of these foods, egg's, they make toxins from the sulfur, if you eat them to many days in a row!"" AND SO ON!" JUST BE SPARING/CHANGING YOUR DIET, VARITY!"" AND CAUTION, COKE'S/CARBONATED DRINKS, IF TOO MANY, AGAIN THIS HELP'S THEM grow babies/bacteria, and they can use as TOXIN , if they want you gone!"" Remember we now have them, they Killed our ancestors, and want us, AND WE HAVE THE BUILT IN CAPABILITY OF LIVING HUNDREDS OF YEARS, AND THESE LITTLE freaks / mutants kept our people from reaching such heights, WE HAVE MUCH TO DO!""

WE HAVE MUCH TO DO!""SIGNS WHICH HAVE COME.......ONE

1. russian satelite for their idol which speaks television, HAS JUST TOOK A METERORITE, AND TWO SATELITE'S HAVE COLLIDED IN HEAVEN, WHAT THE FOOLED CALL SPACE!"" AS I PROPHESY TWO AND MORE YEARS BACK, HE WILL BEGIN THROWING THE FILTH FROM HIS HEAVEN, AND SENCE ONE AMERICAN SPY SATELITE THEY HAD TOO SHOOT DOWN!"" AND THEY SAY THEY DONOT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED!"" I KNOW, AND THEY SHOULD!" NOW RUSSIAN MILLION DOLLAR TV SATELITE IS DISABLED FLOATING FOR NOTHING IN GODS HEAVEN, do too what freak meterorite they say, never happened they say?" WHO SPOEK STONE/METERORITE TOO INTERNATIONAL SPACE PROGRAM RUSSIA!"" WHICH IS AS I PROPHESY AND NOW THEY ARE SAYING THE FIRST METEROR TOO HIT A SATELITE, TRULY HAS HAPPENED, WHEN I THE SMALLONE , WHO WAS TOLD TOO ASK AND WOULD RECEIVE, HAS NOW RECEIVED PART OF THE END OF THE space program, which has hurried GODS COMING BY ENTERING HEAVEN AND DARE CALLING SPACE!"" AND LITERALLY SAYING WE ARE GOING THERE TOO CONQUER SPACE!"" THEY HAVE WENT THERE TOO BE CONQUERED!" NOW THE INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION COME'S DOWN!"" FOR EACH DAY, SHOOTING FECE'S, AND ALLOWING demons/bacteria too grow in their bodie's in HEAVEN AND THEN ESCAPE/infect Gods Heaven!"" WE SEE THE FARTHEST STARS AND ALL HIS BEAUTIFUL HEAVEN FROM EARTH DUE TOO ONE REASON, GOD KEEPS HIS HEAVEN CLEAN AND PERFECT!" BAD MISTAKE, THE DAY RUSSIA BEGAN THE SPACE RACE, WAS THE DAY RUSSIA SEALED ITS fate!" 2. THE EARTH AGAIN HAS BEGAN TOO SHIFT, QUAKES AGAIN FOR INDIA, HE SOON KILLS MANY OF HIS ENEMY/our enemy!" QUAKES NEW JERSEY FOR LOVE,DONE, NOW QUAKES SOON NEW MEXICO FOR LOVE....SOON QUAKES WEST COAST FOR ANGER/FORTY YEAR ANGER!"" LISTING

THE COMING SIGNS....ONE...

1. EARTHQUAKES WASHINGTON D.C AND VIRGINIA BEACH VIRGINIA FOR THE NATION AND ITS PRIESTS AND POLITICIANS AWHORING WITH THE HEATHEN/ANTI-CHRISTS.

2. EARTHQUAKES TOO THE ENEMY OF GOD, FROM JAPAN TOO israel/iran , THE MIGHTY QUAKES OF DESTINY TOO SPLIT THE MOUNT/MOUNTAIN IN ISRAEL WITH THE BLASPHEMUS DOME UPON IT, MAKING A VALLEY WHERE FALSE jews and muslim once sat!""

3. Earthquakes black sea, from volcanic action beneath its floors!"" Volcanoe's MANY , SOME NOT erupting that have slept for centurie's, as the black sea volcanoe's which have not erupted sence the days of MESSIAH, WHICH WILL HELP BRING THE QUAKE OF DESTINY ZECHARIAH 14: 4!""

4. FALLING STONE/STAR TOO AFRICA, {{ HAVE YOU CALLED YOUR MISSIONARIE'S FROM SUDAN, AND AFRICA?" FALLING STAR COME'S }} FOR THE RESETTING OF THE MIGHTY COVENANT OF NOAH/NOE, STAY FROM CANAAN AND CUSH!"

5. STONE/METEROR/FALLING STARS TOO INTERNATIONAL SPACE PROGRAM RUSSIA!"" AND ALL FOR ENTERING HEAVEN CALLING SPACE, BREAKING THE COVENANT OF BABEL, DONOT SHOOT BURNING ARROWS FROM TOWERS INTO MY HEAVEN/DONOT SHOOT BURNING ROCKETS SHAPED LIKE ARROWS INTO MY HEAVEN!"" REMEMBER WHEN YOU/WE WERE KIDS, AND GOD SAID TOO US ALL WHEN KENNEDY SAID WE GO TOO THE MOON, GOD SPOKE WITHIN US ALL, SAYING, DIDNOT GOD SAY, STAY FROM HIS HEAVEN!"" NOW SOON THEY WILL KNOW WHY?

6. STONE, too 700 company for claiming too be a priest, while saying, that GODS MILL STONE'S are just accidents and happen all the time!"" small but very noticable, he made millions taking WORD FROM THE BIBLE about Gods millstone's now dare's say, for WHO? satan, that we must form a weapon against GODS MILLSTONE'S!"" HE SAID THAT YEARS AGO, i thought i had taught him better with GODS HAND, but he again speaks it!"" AS I TOLD HIM, AND AS SCIENCE NOW KNOWS, that if he thinks someone feels they can stop one of HIS MILLSTONES/STARS/meteror's HE SENDS ""THREE!"" bad move!" HURRICANE'S OF FORTY YEAR ANGER, AND FOR TOUCHING THE BIBLE HOUSTON, AND FOR BEING A false prophet and preaching give your land and trade too the heathen!"" HURRICANES TOO HOUSTON AND VIRGINIA BEACH VIRGINIA/WASHINGTON D.C , along with quakes!"" did you see the storm / hurricane that went across the central U.S.A 90 MILE AN HOUR WINDS STAINED?" AMAZING!"

7. EARTHQUAKE JAPAN AND YSUNUMI too Alaska all these events for DEUTERONOMY CHAPTER 28, AND FOR OUR WAKING AND GATHERING!"" WE HAVE MUCH TO DO...

8. THE ECONOMY STILL FALLS, {{ as prophesy 2000 years ago, and prophesy by me, in 2004 }} have you seen these people the democrats, the picture of them on the net!" literally shaking with excitement!"' Like kids in a candy store!"" They years back, changed law's and banking law's, too cause this now fall, {{ clinton adminstration }} and now they receive the many billion Bush asked for, and now another near trillion, too spend on themselve's and their people, to cause more damage too our nation!" A third OF THIS TRILLION going to welfare nearly, and obama, has expanded the faith based organization funding, too neighborhood political and community organizations, which is how he stold money before in chicago/acorn!" Most of this money , will lay waiting for a few years, and then disappear, Nancy Pelosi has had these investigations before over her and her husband, she is very excited!"" WHAT SHOULD be a hard thought and pressure, they look like they are now in Disney land!"" GODS HAND COME'S TOO WAKE THEM TOO THEIR theft!"" we have much to do!"" HE COME'S... FOR CONTACTING WITH DONATIONS AND GATHERING INFORMATION, AND FOR SHOWING YOUR ORGANIZATION UNTO THE HOLYONE AND I MEAN BRING A CAMERA....

Uh HUH.

Somewhat less intelligible, we have this:

I read EVERY word of the debate between you and Till about Olivet Discourse.How can you possibly consider yourself an apologist? The study of the Parousia was the beginning of my disbelief in bible errancy.You,of all people,have shown me how Christians go to ALL lengths to cover up bible errors and to make scripture into what YOU think it should mean. On top of everything else,I should probably expect a [expletive] answer from you....ye man of God.

And this came with the subject line, "Re Tom Harpur Pagan Christ" from the Infected with PC Company:

I just recently read your rebuttal to the above mentioned book.

Just to preface, I am not a Christian - I say this in a completely neutral tone with no malice or conceit. I was however, brought up in a Christian home, a scholarly Christian home, and my parents are ministers. I would describe them as lovingly fundamental. They are well studied, insightful and humble people. They believe in a literal interpretation of the scriptures and the unquestionable sovereignty of God. For as long as I can remember I've had great difficulty accepting this literal interpretation - despite my upbringings indoctrination.

I have no problem with the fact that you philosophically disagree and make argument to the ideas presented in The Pagan Christ. Jesus himself (if he really did exist - as I assume you so believe) had many adversaries in his day. The entire Roman Empire as an example. However, this did not dissuade him nor did it keep the 'truth' from spreading to what is now our modern day Christianity. Jesus had many maligners and had he lived in modern times, critics on the internet would have had a field-day!

The problem that I have - as someone seeking truth and looking for both sides of the story (how I found you) is the vehemence with which you rebut. Your tone holds a distinct and resounding snideness. It is palpable and I found it to be a detractor to your arguements. So much so, that I am taking the time to write you! Who woulda thunk! Are you sure your defence is not of your own ego and ethos - after all, such claims should force one to reconsider all that one has so adamantly believed in. For some, their life work. This would put most on the defensive, fearful that their very core could come undone. When one has been so certain - unwaiveringly so - a book like the Pagan Christ should make us take a breath and go huh? It should force a healthy re-examination of blind faith.

Understandably I am not your target audience - but I could have beeen... seekers, as I consider myself, seek truth. Seekers are not blinded by the personal biases that a defender of the faith is prone to possess. We are free, in a sense, to open ourselves to truth as it comes our way. As a seekers I do not appreciate the condescension with which you write. I am looking for truth, not sacrcasm. I strongly believe that God is NOT a sarcastic SOB. Hence, your words do not feel like truth - they feel like a child having a tempertantrum, afraid the secret might get out and others will know... It reeks of desperation and name calling.

Several years ago, I learned of the principle of the first domino. When we have a rigid belief system their is a compulsion to defend the first domino with all that we have. It is done vigorously. Why? Because if we fail to defend it or acknowledge that we don't have all the answers and we let the first one go... the rest fall in very quick succession... or so we are afraid.

Best of luck to you in your spiritually journeying. I feel a deep personal satisfaction with all of the places my seeking has brought me to. Thank you for being a part of my myriad of experience.

And here, from People Who Don't Get It:

I think that your article on Bill Maher's film Religulous completely misses the point. Religulous is a mocumentary, under the genre of comedy. Comedy is meant to make you laugh and I did throughout Religulous. It is not meant to be taken seriously. Characters ranging from Forest Gump to mr Bean are actually played by intelligent actors and I'm sure that if you met Bill Maher (or the actor who plays him) in real life you'd find out that he is actually very smart. I haven't personally had the fortune of meeting Bill Maher's actor however it is a well know fact that people appear differently on screen than they do in real life. Particuarly when they are actors.

Clearly when Bill Maher is running around the vatican like a five year old let loose with a camcorder or interviewing people he is only pretending to be an idiot. It's called acting and it's what makes it so funny. So why do you take a comedy so seriously? I think we know why. By painting all us atheists in the same way as Bill Maher you can attack an easy strawman argument. Now start engaging with some proper scholars such as Richard Dawkins rather than the latest comedies.

Please raise the level of the debate.

P.s. Laurel and Hardy were't really idiots but were done by actors. Wallace and Gromit are made out of plastacine. Just in case you hadn't twigged. *waits for you to slap your head as you realise that you about to attack another comedy as if it were a documentary*

In close, screwball to "Miss D.A.", who wrote this email to Creation Ministries International:

Dear Mr Wieland

After reading your book 'One Blood', I find I no longer can support Creation Ministries.

Though acknowledging we are all descended from our very first parents, Adam and Eve, the book contains what seems blatantly obvious to me, grave errors from what God's holy Word clearly says.

1. The book approves cannibalism (the transplanting of human-corpses' body-parts to living humans) - the eating up of our dead! (refer the book's 'Foreword'), a modern-world humanistic, unscriptural heresy!

2. The book encourages the mixing of the races by intermarriage - though God Himself made it clear in 'Genesis' at Babel, that He separated and dispersed mankind into races of similarity, to control mankind's mislead powers; a modern-world humanistic, unscriptural heresy!

3. The book approves and encourages globalization, which breaks down the practice of the living God's divisions of mankind into separate (similar) races; a modern-world humanistic, unscriptural heresy!

One of the obvious dire consequences of this heresy being the rapid, vast spreading of the anti-Christ Muslims into the heart of the Western world, which had been Christian until the humanistic rebellious 1960's, which brought in other dire humanistic practices too.

4. The book does not teach the valid means of entry into Christianity, for it does not include Holy Baptism, which Christ Jesus taught (at the end of St Matthew's Gospel), a modern-world humanistic, unscriptural heresy!


The February 2009 John Loftus Collection

Loftus himself wins for bragging about being called one of atheism's "top apologists" by a Christian radio show. It never occurs to him that given the quality of atheist apologetics, that's like being called "the best snail at sucking scum."

DC commenter Deist Dan also wins:

The argument that even if non-Christians had all the proofs in the world (e.g. like witnessing the 10 plagues poured out on Egypt, the sea being parted) they still would stubbornly lack faith is ridiculous.

Christians act as if the proof for the bible being "the word of god" is as obvious to non-Christians and as equally sufficient evidence as it would be to witness Jesus walking on the see, or turning water into wine.

The biblical stories telling of the Israelites turning on God after witnessing such events, or the Jews of Jesus' day stubbornly refusing to believe in him after witnessing these miracles simply prove the stories are made up.

No one who witnessed such miracles could possibly reject his claim to be the messiah (not god), and no group of people could possibly be so stupid as to worship a golden calf after witnessing the miracles surrounding the supposed exodus.

The stories were clearly made up as a warning to the Israelites (aka Canaanites)to reject the polytheism that they had always practiced in favor of the new monotheistic god that the priestly class had adopted.

Believe it or not Christians, people often reject Christianity because of the utter lack of evidence that exists to support it, and people would gladly believe and receive it if such evidence could be provided!

Oh sure. All those 9/11 conspiracy buffs prove that, eh??

2008 Platinum honoree Harry "Obscene Phone" McCall also wins, twice:

Might it even have occurred to you that this is why the Bible story is based in an ancient world who swam in a sea of faith?

Jesus' resurrection would and could not have occurred today because of the news media and cameras on cell phones. In fact, a digital camera is the worst thing both faith and God could have even wanted.

Then again, in this conversation, where he shares an award:

Endiana.com said..."- Ehrman thinks there was a Peter, illiterate, who never went to rome"

It's peculiar that Peter and John are portrayed in Acts as "unlearned and ignorant," yet were later considered capable of penning their respective contributions to the New Testament.

Harry McCall said...Endiana, with God all things are possible (including lying in the Bible)!

Heck, don't even try to tell these people about the use of scribes in the NT world....

Atheist Miscellany

Richard Carrier wins the Egomania Trophy for publishing his mercenary reply to Impossible Faith in book form, and saying of it things like:

I didn't want to take any time away from my current project, so I just did the minimum necessary to produce a decent print copy (and there wasn't much room for improvement anyway--as a refutation, it's pretty conclusive).

Personally, I just prefer reading physical books--lounging wherever I want, no eye strain, no battery or outlet issues, lighter to carry, easier page turning and flipping around and estimating reading time (I can see how much is left to read in a chapter or the rest of the book), I can stuff a bookmark where I left off, etc. For all these reasons, and especially if you want to start building a Richard Carrier collection on your bookshelf, it'll be worth buying the book. You can buy it now at Lulu (the PDF or the softback), but Amazon will give you free shipping (on the softback), so I recommend waiting for when it's available there (unless you just want the PDF). But the best option is to buy a copy from me in person (at a speaking event any time in the future), where you will get a much reduced price ($20).

Though this means my book costs two to three times Holding's (which also just reproduces content already available for free online), mine is four times longer (454 pages to his 112) and (as you all well know) far better researched, argued, and referenced. Thus in terms of actual relative value-for-cost, the price isn't bad. My book actually contains a great deal of useful content and information, and citations of scholarship and sources, far beyond merely being a response to Holding (see the Lulu page for my full book description). It's a useful primer on the socio-intellectual context of the origins and spread of early Christianity. And of course it nails it hard to one of the most annoying apologetic windbags on the web.

Sheesh! Loftus had better deflate his head a little, or he and Richie will push everyone off the face of the earth!

http://deeperwaters.wordpress.com/2009/02/14/the-trial-of-jesus/ -- One of our readers and writers has it out with Vinny of the "You Call This Scholarship?" apostate blog.

"Bronze Dog" had this to say about the DC parody blog:

This post isn't too bad if you remove it from the context of a bunch of people who've apparently never had a serious discussion with an atheist, trying to pretend to be atheists. The quasi-Platonist, anti-modern view of evolution is one dead giveaway.

An atheist offers a devastating question to a reader:

Kabane52, if "god" created us as some would have us believe, why do we have other languages? At what point and for what reason did "Adam and Eves' " children make other languages and so many?

Seasanctuary goes further downhill"

Depends on what you mean by 'best'. If we give every separate possible answer a probability, then yes the superhuman answer with the single best probability will be the one claimed by a major world religion.

Just making up numbers:

26% Misc. low chance and unimagined

20% Christian God

17% Sorcery

15% Rare super-human mutation

14% Extra-terrestrial intervention

8% Vampire

In this way, the Christian answer can be 'the best' -- single -- answer but still not be compelling. Nor is there any need for any particular alternative to have a higher single epistemic probability.

Outside of this thought experiment, I consider Christianity's answer for there being a resurrection at all and it being God-caused to be in a similar situation. Except instead of having relatively large percentages for things with controversial or unsuspected existence, there would be percentages or things like: 'hallucination', 'intentional hoax', 'prank gone wrong', sheer rumor, and various other social and psychological possibilities. The Christian answer can still be the single highest percent even if it isn't close to even 50% overall.

Let's say I claim to have been at the park yesterday at noon. If you don't have a way to check my claim, then the single highest probable place I was at would be the park even if you have some reason to think it was probably not the case. You could list other places I could have been at noon, but without specific evidence any specific alternative will have a low individual probability.

Heck, if I deny that I was at the park yesterday at noon, it would still be the best single bet if you don't have any specific information on alternatives. Simply because I mentioned the park and not any other locations.

Nomination to another atheist whose head will soon explode:

The mere existense of cultural contex, dispreoves the existence of god. Why would god write a book that only coincided with the practices of that era. Why doesn't the bible also say don't watch football on sundays unless you go to church or don't drink and drive a motor vehicle. Why would the book only apply to culture that existed 2000 years ago,if it was written by a time transcendant being? His divine plan must include you and i right? why is current culture not mentioned?

Nomination to yet another atheist posting on a rebuttal to Mithra=Jesus theories:

You are the decaying organic matter as everything else! We will most likely never understand the catalyst of existence! There is no heaven, no hell, there is only the one life you live! The only measure of a mans deeds is in the eyes of his peers and in the progress of the species as a whole! The Sun is dying, we are killing the planet, and everything is falling apart..

Those are the facts! Now will you wait to die? Or will you start helping our race reach the stars and the universe beyond?

Religion is no longer applicable to the mental, social or intellectual stage that our species has arrived. Whilst the barbaric system of fear and empty promises were no doubt a useful tool as to create a reliable global political platform in an age wherein modern science did not exist, since then we have progressed and have 'grown out of the pants' so to speak. Adults do not wear childrens clothing, nor should our mental understanding be any different.....

I would like to have replied to you on the nut case Pastor Jerry's video but I was blocked for being a blasphemer!!! Rofl!

It makes little difference if you disagree with the information raised, the fact of the matter is that the entire Christian religion is a blatant plagiarism, full to the brim with idiotic contradictions. Events that have not been and cannot be confirmed in any non-biblical fashion, messiahs whose traits directly match and take from others that came long before them.....

Understand that religion is nothing more than human politic, it's an ancient form of law designed to keep you under control. Such is clear when you study the contradictions and plagiarisms within the not only the Christian Religion, but ALL religions alike!

Religion itself is derived from the Zodiac, a 12,000 year old astrological calendar. The Ancient Mesopotamian, Chinese and Egyptian cultures most likely created the first political process, which Christianity & Islam was later based upon.

hateverman wins for this quote:

Moral relativism isn't a philosophy. It's a pejorative used to describe that which opposes absolute morality.

Juliecruz wins for giving up her belief in God because she let an analogy of God being like Santa given to her by her cousin bother her in the first place: Its' funny, but of all the arguments I've read, pro and con, the thing that's been nagging at me the most is the thing my cousin said that annoyedd me the most: "I don't believe in God for the EXACT same reason that you don't believe in Santa Claus."

Yo lunch is the first to nominate for Platinum TWeb n00b in 2009:

I am an Atheist but will not waste time arguing as to whether or not there is a god. Why? Be cause one cannot prove a negative and neither can one prove the existence of a god. Faith is the only thing that believers have and that is not proof.

Atheist simply have an absence of belief or faith in a go and do not need to prove anything..

My arguments are with Christianity and the lie that Jesus is the son of god and saviour of the world. That is BS and the Bible is NOT the word of god. That is where the real argument is.

The Bible purports to be the word of god and I say it is not and there is absolutely NO PROOF that it is.

I will not waste time with polemics otherwise. It is simply a straw man designed to take the eye off the ball. Fact is, Christians are non-believers also when other gods are mentioned by Islam, Buddists, etc.

There are over 27 books claiming to be of divine origin. I deny the devinity of one more than Christians do.

The Christian and Theist Collection

The folks in this story deserves an award, and a kick in the pants:

A group of six church-goers came in last night after their evening services and sat down, not in her [the author's daugher's] area but in another server's. When the girl came to greet them and take their drink order, one of them said, "We want to tell you up front that we will not be tipping you tonight because..."

Are you ready?

"...we do not believe in people working on Sunday."

The girl was taken full-aback, stammered out something that sounded like "I wouldn't have to work on Sunday if so many church people didn't come in," or some such. She was furious. So was the manager of the restaurant whom she summoned to deal with them. I think he should have tossed the people out on their...uh...Bibles. To his credit, and demonstrating something like agape all around, he did say to them, "Well, we don't believe in making our people work for nothing, so I will be serving you tonight." And he did. God bless him.

Christian Platinum winner MC1711611 shows up and presents us with another one to nominate for 2010:

...your problem is that you don't believe that God could preserve His words like He promised He would. The language that Christ spoke is irrelevant.

TyRockwell aims high:

The Battle Hymn would be more Biblical if it sad, "As he died to make men holy, let us LIVE to make men free." Though I have heard it sung that way.

Jesus, who died in our place, said "He that endures to the end will be delivered. Not a hair of his head will perish." We haven't matured to that much faith and hope and love, yet. We are too interested in getting to heaven. And the apostles hadn't reached that level of maturity either, except maybe John.

Vivian once more plumbs the depths of wimpy-Jesusness:

But now we are again a country of hope, of faith, of love - which as we know from scripture is really all that matters.

So yes, what is important with any event is how it moves people, and this election has caused an incredible u-turn in peoples' attitudes - a change which may indeed stave off what had been thought to be certain destruction of our country - for when a peoples become cold and rigid, thinking they are alone the righteous ones in holding up the letter of the law, they fall.

So to all those reading this, each of us can either side with the rigid coldness of those still holding to hatred, or we can let go, let God, and join with the movement of hope, faith and love that is fast spreading through this country.

Jonathan Goode (grade 7) wins for this:

[Goode] applied findings from many fields of science to support his conclusion that God designed women for homemaking: physics shows that women have a lower center of gravity than men, making them more suited to carrying groceries and laundry baskets; biology shows that women were designed to carry un-born babies in their wombs and to feed born babies milk, making them the natural choice for child rearing; social sciences show that the wages for women workers are lower than for normal workers, meaning that they are unable to work as well and thus earn equal pay; and exegetics shows that God created Eve as a companion for Adam, not as a co-worker.

Pai Geacademe on Tektonics:

Tektonics is not a legitimate source for scholarly ideas. Its head relies on dum dum insults rather than the concreteness of his theories to persuade.

And more. Without Hell, the atonement loses its emotional tug, he says: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUfzefssUXk

Merrykaye wins for this:

"God is telepathic; He showed me where all religions connect. God's Divine Mind is BIG; He lives and loves. He ties together all religions. As St. Paul exhorted "We must build on Appllo, not tear Him down as pagan." NOTE > In the non-fiction book Genesis of the Grail Kings; it tells you that there is radio-crystal in our pineal glands like a cell phone. It is often clogged with interference from decrepit minds. The book is written by a genius whose credentials are exemplary.

In the other theists realm, mastralvarado rewtites linguistic history:

Little do Americans know that their language is religiously biased toward Latin which was the language the Roman empire reinvented with the help of the institution of a Universal Church and French persons.

And LDSTrue has a word for Joel Osteen fans:

Reconsider Matt. 19: 29 "And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life."

"shall receive" "hundred fold" "children" and 'everlasting life" does have Heavenly familial reunion implications and there it is in the Bible in black and white... for the discerning!

http://news.therecord.com/sections/faith/article/480030

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=107741751&blogID=466109899

http://freethoughtsociety.wordpress.com/2009/01/29/the-christian-car-bomb-argument/ <:>http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&hl=en-GB&v=CUhyd9vG2cE&NR=1

http://atheistethicist.blogspot.com/2008/02/birth-rates-and-competing-ideas.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6C9BuXe2RM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7fjGxfNsKk

http://www.atheistrev.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0SwwLcBUe8

http://www.harmlessasdoves.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1xl4vS19LI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6RjTChSvEI&feature=PlayList&p=BCA30A431E51577A&index=4

http://www.melchizedeklearning.com/ -- At Large Platinum nominee:

The Melchizedek University is a powerful arrangement of colleges, which are placed in various dimensions of our Universe to distribute the Records of Melchizedek as knowledge, understanding, wisdom and intelligence of God.

This Universe school carries the body of light to the neighboring planets as personal guidance instruction from the Creator. It is an actual sphere of Higher Mind Intelligence integrating all life in the Presence of Michael, the Universe Creator. Because of the proximity of Creator Michael to the University, the Earth University of Melchizedek is also interpenetrated with Christ Michael's Presence.

For this reason you are meeting not only the radiation of Melchizedek as a vibratory release through the University materials, but you are also impacted by the living program of Michael as the Universe Father. This is important to remember and always must be considered as you take up the texts of the University.

The Melchizedek Records, released through the Scribe Crystal (Patricia Jepsen), form a platform for the consciousness of the emerging GodSelf. In agreement with the Christ teachings of Lord Jesus, High Priest after the order of Melchizedek, these Records permit the student to consciously realize Truth and achieve conscious union with God. (See New Testament, Hebrews 7)

The University of Melchizedek addresses the mystical side of Christianity and embraces the spiritual journey of all religions and faiths. The embodiment of the Christ is within every heart. Thank you for the messages, they are so beautiful, pure and coming from the very wellspring of a soul truly one and immersed in God. - B.S, USA

Christopher Hitchens at http://voxday.blogspot.com/2009/02/real-bright.html

http://bythebookcomics.blogspot.com/ -- Atheist website Platinum nominee

http://theintelligentzone.blogspot.com/2009/02/simon-idiot-morris.html -- Mike Wright again goes for dumbest atheist or best parody of one:

1. Most people have a facebook account

2. Therefore someone is either out of touch with 21st century culture or they are on Facebook

3. Jesus isnt on Facebook

4. therefore either jesus is out of touch with 21st century culture or does not exist

Bill Maher: http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/apeyser/2009/02/23/slumdog-maher-celebutard-of-the-week-x2/

A selection of adult Americans wins:

When The Harris PollŽ asked a crosssection of adult Americans to say whom they admire enough to call their heroes, President Barack Obama was mentioned most often, followed by Jesus Christ and Martin Luther King. Others in the top ten, in descending order, were Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush, Abraham Lincoln, John McCain, John F. Kennedy, Chesley Sullenberger and Mother Teresa.

These heroes were named spontaneously. Those surveyed were not shown or read a list of people to choose from. The Harris Poll was conducted online among a sample of 2,634 U.S. adults (aged 18 and over) by Harris InteractiveŽ between January 12 and 19, 2009.

Obama a bigger hero than Jesus?? This comment also wins:

It is noteworthy that the top ten include six dead heroes (including Jesus Christ and Martin Luther King) and four live ones.

http://commonsenseatheism.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbIa9fZuTFA